Amtrgas

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:17:07 AM
Looks like the EU is going to show the way for the rest of the world.
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signwiz

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:18:17 PM
They gonna do 'Soylent Green" too?
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kcboy

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Utah
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:05:02 PM
Keep on going and set the example others.
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Bezalel

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:55:44 PM
With the recent findings that some of the renewables are not as green as oil products, is this result good?!!
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DWME

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:39:20 PM
Go Europe. Why aren't we a little more progressive?
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:34:56 PM
at least they are proactive
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OGW

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London
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:28:21 PM
At least they don't sit around waiting for other energy sources to run out.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:27:56 PM
herbiepopnecker: The European states have simply taxed all energy products to death to fund all their social programs. Our state and federal governments have not learned quite how to tax us with such an iron fist, so far!
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:26:13 PM
Good for them.
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Cuzilla

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:23:35 PM
I don't care. My ancestors fled that place to keep from starving to death. I'm surprized the EU has held together this long. Let's see if Greece topples that house of cards!
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:23:34 PM
So true indyjim. Isn't the precision of the EU's forecasts just amazing and incredible. They appear even more precise and certain than PD's GasPrices forecasts for price increases in the USA!
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:15:21 PM
sounds like a good start. end game will need to be much more than 20%-- more like 100%
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indyjim

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:15:12 PM
Wow, they will surpass their target by .3%. I'm amazed. Of course, they are 10 years away and everybody knows that govt. never exceeds forecast or completes anything on time.
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jjjleblanc

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:13:13 PM
Will the EU last that long?
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RobRD

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:10:40 PM
Good for Europe. Hopefully North America will take their head out of the sand soon and work on this or get left behind.
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paulydel

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:05:21 PM
Lets see what happens next.
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lowtidedakine

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:56:57 PM
Good times! Aloha
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CatMan623

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:53:05 PM
Good for them. Let them pay to work out the initial kinks and get things optimized.
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:50:22 PM
AND WE SIT ON THE SIDELINES
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BrucePen

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:49:50 PM
Good news,
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tc316

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:49:32 PM
Keep it up
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herbiepopnecker

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:49:04 PM
Europe hasn't hidden behind cheap oil for decades.
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:48:48 PM
At what cost? Whose numbers?
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Skychief

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:47:52 PM
Liars.
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Hunter114

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:46:56 PM
Due to environmental fleecing no doubt.
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salog

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:45:15 PM
with what gas prices are over there, they had more incentive.
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BurntOrange

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:35:37 PM
"In 2007, the most recent year for which there is data available"
Still a lot to get done in the nest 10 years
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scrounger

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:34:45 PM
at gunpoint perhaps?
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nimpy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:33:59 PM
Go Europe
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ricker8

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:33:11 PM
okay
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Rt118E

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:22:04 PM
You still have Russia, Africa, South America, Middle East, Far East & Australia to go along.
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jimgraham

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Akron
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:12:56 PM
As we get further and further behind. Except in our National Debt. There we are far far ahead of the pack. Not winning, just far ahead.
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bumpygas

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:12:30 PM
The US has all the passing it can handle with Obama and his band of idiots in control and passing hot gasses that destroy everything within their reach including our way of life.
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Goatroper

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:07:13 PM
It would be nice if we could do the same thing.
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TFowler513

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:28:48 PM
This is a good thing!!!
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badtazz

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:02:54 PM
I'm an independent who thinks if the enviornmentalists would stop protesting some of our efforts to build wind and solar fields, we could be way further along than we are. ie the wind field in Oregon, the solar fields in the California desert. Just my opinion.
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Cakes77

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Harrisburg
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:01:13 PM
The The European Union is serious about cleaner air.
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texasvet

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:58:30 PM
As opposed to the leftwing nuts on here who think that every time the temperature goes up it's "global warming".
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opecsucks76

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:57:09 PM
Amen to that alot of Right Wingnuts on here, who poo poo any environmentally friendly policy.
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cuspid

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:53:55 PM
I dont know how to reply, theres a catch some where
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30mpg80

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:53:21 PM
great to see a few positive messages from members between the pitiful whiners.
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Art48

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:48:40 PM
TBRR - But gas prices are SO high in this country.
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Art48

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:45:58 PM
MidNJ - You know "They" as opposed to "Us". The other guys. Them over there. The ones to blame, the ones who are better, or worse, can't do things right, always screwing things up, the speculators, the oil companies, the politicians, the leftists, the socialists, the bankers, them.
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TBRR

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:44:21 PM
whoopty do! two years ago in england i paid about $200.00 for a tank of gas which is mostly tax. it they succeed, it will only damage their tax base.
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donny47

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:43:52 PM
energy conservation should be high on priority list of every country.
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:40:49 PM
A few will make billions on green energy in the US hopefully they will invest the billions here instead of in China or some other slave nation.
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MidNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:34:57 PM
divebomber,
TerryLee is right about what?
We still do not know who "They" are.
Please expand.
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Art48

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:34:09 PM
preacherjohn - I wouldn't approve a mortgage for you.
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lkozark

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:34:01 PM
Hope the can exceed their target.
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preacherjohn

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Modesto
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:31:15 PM
Who says we'll be here in the year 2020, we're not promised tomorrow. So why speculate.
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